Consensus
Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:01AM

a vibe check: amending our effective quorum from two-thirds (66.7%) downwards

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Wishdream Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:00AM

 
1 - three-fifths (60%)
 
2 - two-thirds (66.7% - status quo)
 
3 - fifty-five percent (55%)
 
4 - majority (50%)

I have no problem just reducing it, not everyone can vote timely but I wouldn't lower it either too much. I think decisions should take some time, but also not quite long. Around 60% would be good.

Not 50% though, I'd be wary of that.

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WholeWheatBagels Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:00AM

 
1 - three-fifths (60%)
 
2 - two-thirds (66.7% - status quo)
 
3 - fifty-five percent (55%)
 
4 - majority (50%)

half seems like too close to solidly agree on a vote. 60 is a good compromise that would be actually attainable. 55 i think is still too close of a majority.

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vis Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:00AM

 
1 - three-fifths (60%)
 
2 - two-thirds (66.7% - status quo)
 
3 - fifty-five percent (55%)
 
4 - majority (50%)

i dont want to adjust it down too far, but i acknowledge that we're having issues reaching quorum. i would rather we find more ways to get people notified about active votes -- thin the deluge of information that stewards are being presented with, as it were -- rather than reduce quorum.

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Tom Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:00AM

 
1 - three-fifths (60%)
 
2 - fifty-five percent (55%)
 
3 - majority (50%)
 
4 - two-thirds (66.7% - status quo)

Adjusting it down slightly seems reasonable.

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kouhai Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:00AM

 
1 - majority (50%)
 
2 - fifty-five percent (55%)
 
3 - three-fifths (60%)
 
4 - two-thirds (66.7% - status quo)

voting in ascending order; i think that it could potentially be contextual, and that we need to delegate more.

WM

walking mirage Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:00AM

 
1 - three-fifths (60%)
 
2 - fifty-five percent (55%)
 
3 - majority (50%)
 
4 - two-thirds (66.7% - status quo)

if we feel like it's an impediment, maybe we can take it downward in steps

WS

wenchcoat system Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:00AM

 
1 - majority (50%)
 
2 - fifty-five percent (55%)
 
3 - three-fifths (60%)
 
4 - two-thirds (66.7% - status quo)

I think the real answer is to start working on 2a again (which in its current draft eschews quorum entirely in favor of a longer voting period to better assure abstentions are deliberate), but meanwhile we're just too big and frankly I'm not sure even 50% is low enough.

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Maya Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:00AM

 
1 - two-thirds (66.7% - status quo)
 
2 - three-fifths (60%)
 
3 - fifty-five percent (55%)
 
4 - majority (50%)

I'd prefer we explore longer voting periods and delegation to subcommittees before lowering quorum in a stepwise fashion, but I'm not opposed to lowering it.

Several 24-hour votes were announced while I was asleep, and by the time I got off from work there were only a few hours left to try to cram and catch up.

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art semaphore Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:00AM

 
1 - three-fifths (60%)
 
2 - two-thirds (66.7% - status quo)
 
3 - fifty-five percent (55%)
 
4 - majority (50%)

if it's gonna get lowered id rather stair-step it

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ocean Thu 3 Oct 2024 3:00AM

 
1 - three-fifths (60%)
 
2 - fifty-five percent (55%)
 
3 - two-thirds (66.7% - status quo)
 
4 - majority (50%)

simple majority starts to feel too small and i feel worried it could not be representative of the super majority of the group. the rest feel like ok compromises. it sounds like maybe we could use an alternative voting rules for fast track items that fit certain criteria or do we feel that it’s important to move as a group on all items.

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